>>> FedEx beats by $0.10, beats on revs; guides FY15 EPS in-line-->+4.5% pre-mkt

--> FDX +4.5% Pre-mkt, UPS +1.77%

FedEx beats by $0.10, beats on revs; guides FY15 EPS in-line

Reports Q4 (May) earnings of $2.46 per share, $0.10 better than the Capital IQ Consensus Estimate of $2.36; revenues grew ~3.5% year/year to $11.8 bln vs the $11.64 bln consensus.
  • Excluding business realignment program costs and aircraft impairment charges last year, operating results improved on higher volumes and operational efficiencies at FedEx Freight, increased volumes and yields at FedEx Ground, and better revenue and cost performance at FedEx Express.
  • During Q4, the co acquired 9.9 million shares of FedEx common stock, increasing the fiscal 2014 purchase total to 36.8 million shares. As of May 31, 2014, 5.3 million shares remained under the existing share repurchase authorizations. Share repurchases benefited fourth quarter earnings by $0.12 per diluted share.
    • Express rev up slightly to $7 bln; operating income +3% to $475 mln.
    • Ground rev +8% to $3.01 bln; operating income +5% to $586 mln.
    • Freight rev +12% to $1.55 bln; operating income +51% to $122 mln.
Co issues in-line guidance for FY15, sees EPS of $8.50-9.00 vs. $8.73 Capital IQ Consensus.
  • The outlook assumes no net year-over-year fuel impact and continued moderate economic growth. Capital spending for fiscal 2015 is expected to increase to ~$4.2 billion, which includes planned aircraft deliveries to support the co's fleet modernization program and continued expansion of the FedEx Ground network.

>>> US Early premarket gappers

Early premarket gappers

Gapping up: NEWL +38.2%, ETRM +26.3%, ADBE +9.4%, GIGA +7.1%, PLUG +3%, CNHI +2.6%, BBRY +2.5%, ENB +2.4%, FCEL +2.1%, RDS.B +1.9%, DMND +1.9%, RDS.A +1.6%, SUNE +1.5%, FLXN +1.3%, CGEN +1.3%, TSN +1.2%, AZN +1.1%, MOVE +0.5%

Gapping down
: ECYT -19.7%, LZB -10.7%, MUX -10.1%, GWPH -5.6%, NGL -5.1%, FBIZ -2.8%, CONE -2.5%, RYAAY -2.4%, SPWR -2.3%, ZBRA -1.9%, CBPO -1.7%, SCTY -1.1%, RCPT -0.6%

(BFW) Allergan Seen Making ‘Imminent’ Bid for Shire: SunTrust Robinson


Allergan Seen Making ‘Imminent’ Bid for Shire: SunTrust Robinson
2014-06-18 11:25:34.225 GMT


By Catherine Larkin
     June 18 (Bloomberg) -- Allergan’s bid will be more
attractive than Valean’t proposal, allow more upside without
risk of holding VRX shrs, SuntTrust Robinson Humphrey analyst
John T. Boris said in note.
  * Friendly AGN + SHPG deal will be viewed more favorably,
    provide “more transparent and sustainable organic growth”
  * Sees SHPG holders owning 30% of combined co., above tax
    inversion threshold, assuming half stock/cash deal and 128m
    shrs issued
  * Rates AGN buy, PT $200; says combination with SHPG would be
    valued at $210/shr base case or $233 in bull case
  * NOTE: Yday, Valeant Says ‘There Is a Path to Shareholder
    Vote’ on AGN Deal
    * Shire Hires Citi as It Braces for Takeover Offers:
      Reuters


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(Manager Magazin) Société Générale toying with buying the DAB bank

HypoVereinsbank is one of its online subsidiary DAB non-core business and drives the sale forward. The French bank Société Générale in Germany expressed interest in direct investment bank.

Hamburg - Germany The offshoot of the French bank Société Générale has interest in direct investment Bank (DAB). Their mother HypoVereinsbank (HVB) pushing ahead with the sale of the broker as manager magazine in its new issue (release date: June 20) reported, citing industry sources.

In recent weeks, about ten potential bidders were contacted for the DAB, the HVB no longer part of the core business: rivals such as ING-Diba, Comdirect and Cortal Consors as well as financial investors. The reaction of the online banking market leader fell from reticent.
Unlike the French, who are so far represented in Germany in direct banking only with the mini-provider Onvista, but go for expansion: CEO Frédéric Oudéa (50) will in the next two years, up to four billion euros for the expansion of European business, including acquisitions provide. On the stock market, DAB is worth around 340 million euros, with its well 620 000 customers. By August, the deal could go through, they say.

Manager Magazin : BMW boss ordered the consolidated new austerity program

The car manufacturer BMW wants to hedge his return with a long-term savings program. The project, for which according to the consolidated circles the consulting firm McKinsey has been commissioned, should save several billion euros.

Hamburg - The project run by 2020 and should reduce costs EUR per year by at least three to four billion, manager magazine reports in its new issue (publication date: June 20).

Given the excessively increased investment, for example in new drives and after a first failed attempt to limit the cost increase, BMW boss Norbert Reithofer have the consulting firm McKinsey in charge of the project, according to group circles. The program is intended to ensure that BMWs operating profit lies in the targeted corridor of 8 to 10 percent return on sales in the long term.
BMW Show Chartplans to increase its sales by 2016 to 2.5 million cars per year. 2013, the company had sold nearly two million cars and thereby achieved a return of 9.4 percent in the automotive business.

In particular, the results of the small models 1 Series and Mini CEO Reithofer had recently, though disappointed, says the company. Thanks to the austerity program, the CEO see the achievement of the return target by 2016 under normal circumstances and secured to. After that, however, still a yawning gap of several 100 million euro.

Lululemon Gives Adidas to VF $1 Billion Reason for Bid: Real M&A

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Lululemon Gives Adidas to VF $1 Billion Reason for Bid: Real M&A 2014-06-18 11:00:01.1 GMT

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By Brooke Sutherland and Scott Deveau June 18 (Bloomberg) -- Lululemon Athletica Inc. just got marked down by $1 billion. The yoga-pant maker plunged 16 percent after the company cut its full-year earnings forecast last week. That decline added to the $5.5 billion already wiped out in the last year amid a product recall and management shakeup, leaving Lululemon trading near its lowest earnings multiple since 2009. While the $5.6 billion retailer may not want to sell at this level, the drop could encourage an opportunistic buyer to make an approach, said Scott Rostan of Training The Street. Suitors willing to court Lululemon’s founder and largest shareholder Chip Wilson would get a company that’s projected to boost sales 46 percent over the next three years. VF Corp., the $27 billion owner of the Vans and The North Face brands, is one of the most likely candidates to consider acquiring Lululemon, said Canaccord Genuity Group Inc. Adidas AG also would make sense as a buyer because the $22 billion sporting-goods maker could use its international expertise to help guide Lululemon’s overseas expansion, Wedbush Inc. said. “If you believe the long-term growth prospects and fundamental value of the company, then maybe now is the time to talk to them,” Rostan, whose New York-based firm teaches new hires at investment banks how to structure mergers and acquisitions, said by phone. “Given where their valuation is now, there’s probably some sniffing going on.” A representative for Vancouver-based Lululemon didn’t immediately respond to phone or e-mail requests for comment.

Disappointing Report

Lululemon plunged last week, erasing more than $1 billion in market value in a single day, after saying sales have been slower than expected and full-year earnings will be lower than earlier forecast. While the stock has gained 3.9 percent since, the company’s market value is still down about $800 million. The shares had been slipping since last June, when Chief Executive Officer Christine Day announced she was stepping down. Sales growth has stalled in the last year as increased quality checks slowed deliveries of new apparel. It’s also been forced to re-woo shoppers after recalling a popular yoga pant line because they were too sheer. With the stock drop, Lululemon hasn’t been this cheap for potential buyers since July 2009, one month after the end of the worst U.S. recession since the Great Depression. The retailer’s price-earnings ratio of 21 yesterday is about half its five-year average, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. “It becomes a little bit more realistic,” even though Lululemon is still relatively expensive compared to peers, Howard Tubin, a New York-based analyst at RBC Capital Markets, a unit of Royal Bank of Canada, said in a phone interview. “They’re a large player in a very attractive segment of apparel, the women’s athletic apparel market. They have a lot of growth prospects.”

Sales Forecasts

Analysts estimate Lululemon will boost sales to $2.3 billion in the year ended January 2017 as it expands into men’s wear and international markets. That compares with $1.6 billion last year and represents a fivefold increase from the year ended January 2010. “It could be enticing to some,” Tubin said. Lululemon could be a good fit for VF because the larger company already has a presence in athletic apparel, said Camilo Lyon, a New York-based analyst at Canaccord. VF, which traces its retailing roots back to 1899, could also use its expertise to remedy Lululemon’s supply-chain challenges and cut costs, Lyon said.

Shining Light

Omar Saad of International Strategy & Investment Group LLC highlighted Lululemon as a potential takeover target for VF last month. A takeover at $50 a share, a 29 percent premium to yesterday’s close, could be accretive for the maker of Wrangler denim and Ella Moss dresses, he wrote. Lululemon’s “value proposition of superior product quality and an engaging store experience has been a beacon of light in the dark ocean of specialty retail mediocrity, leading to tremendous profitability and growth until this point,” Saad wrote in the May report. VF “has in spades what Lulu lacks,” such as a scaled supply chain. Adidas, which is based in Herzogenaurach, Germany, and gets more than 75 percent of its sales from outside North America, also could be a logical buyer should a deal occur, said Corinna Freedman an analyst at Wedbush. “That could make a lot of sense, especially given Adidas’ international expertise,” Freedman said by phone from New York. Laurent Potdevin, who took over as Lululemon’s CEO in January, said in March that he wants to accelerate the retailer’s international expansion plans. The company got 95 percent of its revenue last year from the U.S. and Canada.

Nike Gear

Nike Inc. may also be interested in adding Lululemon’s tank tops and yoga pants to its athletic lineup, according to Jennifer Black, chief executive officer at Lake Oswego, Oregon- based Jennifer Black & Associates LLC, who said the company’s takeover prospects will increase if it continues to struggle this year. “Shareholders will become frustrated,” Black said in a phone interview. “Shareholders are going to give them the benefit of the doubt for a long period of time. But if they don’t execute, they are an open target.” Representatives for Greensboro, North Carolina-based VF and Adidas declined to comment, as did a representative for Beaverton, Ohio-based Nike.

Stabilize First

Any suitor may want wait for an improvement in Lulu’s earnings before considering a deal, said Freedman of Wedbush and Jaime Katz of Morningstar Inc. “You want to see things stabilize before you jump into the crossfire,” Katz, a Chicago-based analyst, said in a phone interview. “It’s going to be a little bit of time before any other large retailer would feel comfortable folding this business in. It just seems like there’s a lot of internal turmoil that’s trying to settle itself down right now.” Part of that turmoil is related to Wilson, who last week voted against the re-election of his successor as chairman, saying the board has been too concerned with short-term results. With an almost 30 percent stake, Wilson can influence or control strategic changes, including approving a merger, Lululemon said in its most recent annual filing. “You have a very big shareholder who has a mind of his own,” Katz said. “In order to get everybody on board, Chip Wilson needs to be on board.”

Activist Interest

While Wilson and the rest of Lululemon’s management team probably isn’t interested in selling when the company’s stock is so low, its plunging shares could encourage an activist to approach and push for changes, including a sale, said Pamela Quintiliano, a New York-based analyst at SunTrust Banks Inc. “This space is filled with activists right now,” she said in a phone interview. “I don’t know that they’d be successful in pressuring, but I think there’s clearly an opportunity for someone to come in.” The drop may also be dramatic enough to entice buyers to approach on their own, said Frank Beck, president of Austin, Texas-based Beck Capital Management LLC. Beck said his firm, which oversees about $250 million, had sold its Lululemon shares before the earnings report last week. “The drop has at least gotten the valuation down low enough that, heck, if it went down a little lower, I’d probably consider buying shares myself,” Beck said in a phone interview. “It would be really attractive to a lot of companies.”

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(Barron's) 4 Oversold Stocks to Buy (CREE, LL, HIBB, UNFI)

4 Oversold Stocks to Buy
The names highlighted here have fallen by more than 15% this year. Yet all have recently received at least two upgrades from analysts.

The U.S. stock market is trading near all-time highs, but there are some recent markdowns to be found. Among companies large and small in the Standard & Poor's 1500 Composite index, 168 have suffered share-price declines of at least 15% so far this year. Over the past month, 33 of these have attracted ratings upgrades from at least one analyst, according to FactSet.

Some of these are minority opinions. Whole Foods Market (ticker: WFM ), which has slashed its earnings guidance amid rising competition from both organic specialists and traditional grocers, has attracted two upgrades but four downgrades. For Dick's Sporting Goods ( DKS ), whose results have been dragged down by weakness in golf clubs and guns, the ratio is 1-to-7. Most are cases in which just one analyst has sweetened on shares; examples include GameStop ( GME ), Panera Bread ( PNRA ), Eaton Vance ( EV ), Kansas City Southern ( KSU ) and Arch Coal ( ACI ).

We found exactly four cases, however, of stocks that have fallen 15% this year and been the subject of more than one recent analyst upgrade.

* Cree ( CREE )
Down 22% YTD
3 upgrades, 0 downgrades
Cree specializes in light-emitting diodes, or LEDs. LED light bulbs last about six times longer than compact fluorescent bulbs and use half the energy. They're also more durable. And unlike fluorescents, they aren't made with mercury and harmful gases. But they cost more up front. Cree makes LED components and chips for other manufacturers and has been growing its own brand of LED lighting, which analysts say is causing tension with some of its component customers. The company has managed to top earnings estimates in recent quarters, but the bar has been moving lower. A year ago, Wall Street predicted Cree would earn $1.86 in its current fiscal year, which runs through this month. Now it says $1.64.

Gabelli & Company upgraded the stock to Buy from Hold in May, noting that while the timing of market adoption for LED lighting is uncertain, and could depend on prices moving lower, the long-term growth outlook is promising and Cree is a market leader. Shares trade at 26 times projected earnings for the coming fiscal year. Cree holds cash equal to one-fifth of its stock-market value.

* Lumber Liquidators Holdings ( LL )
Down 25% YTD
2 upgrades, 0 downgrades
Lumber Liquidators is the largest seller of hardwood flooring in North America and has expanded into other products such as vinyl and tile. It has just over 340 stores, and management says it can ultimately expand to more than 600 stores. Wall Street predicts yearly earnings growth of more than 20%, on average, over the next five years. Shares tumbled after the company reported first-quarter earnings that fell well short of estimates, blaming weather. Estimates for the current quarter have dipped slightly due to a spilling over of bad weather early in the quarter, but those for future quarters are unchanged. Investment bank Stephens upgraded the stock to Overweight from Equal Weight in May, citing high returns on equity, plenty of growth potential and a cash surplus. Shares trade at 23 times this year's earnings forecast and 18 times next year's.

* Hibbett Sports ( HIBB )
Down 20% YTD
2 upgrades, 0 downgrades
Hibbett Sports specializes in smaller markets, insulating it somewhat from competition by larger chains like Dick's and mass merchants like Wal-Mart. The company turns about 13 cents of each sales dollar into earnings before interest and tax, versus eight cents for Dick's. Shares have traded lower on a slight earnings miss last quarter amid weak results in general for retailers.

Sidoti & Company, which raised its rating on the stock to Buy from Hold last month, predicts that Hibbett will grow its store count by 60% through the early part of next decade and that margins will push higher starting next year. Hibbett trades at 19 times this year's earnings estimate of $2.89, with that number expected to grow more than 70% over the next four years.

* United Natural Foods ( UNFI )
Down 15% YTD
2 upgrades, 0 downgrades
United Natural Foods has been dragged down with organic grocers, but as a wholesaler, it's one step removed from price competition in stores. Its cost-plus contracts give it steady profit margins, and with exposure to both specialty stores and traditional grocers, it benefits from rising demand for organic and natural products, no matter where customers shop. Whole Foods contributes 36% of sales, versus 34% for independents and 25% for traditional grocers, and so is large enough to negotiate for lower prices, but its contract runs through 2020, according to investment bank Jefferies. Meanwhile, strong sales growth for a handful of natural-food producers, like WhiteWave Foods ( WWAV ) and Hain Celestial Group ( HAIN ), bodes well for industry-wide demand. Shares sell for 26 times projected earnings for United's current fiscal year, which runs through July.

RTR - Big Tobacco squares up as EU rules aim to track every cigarette

(Reuters) - It takes a British American Tobacco (BATS.L) factory machine three minutes to load 4 million cigarettes onto a truck in northern Bavaria - but it can take a lot longer to figure out whether those cigarettes end up where they should.

So the EU is asking tobacco firms to do more to track and trace their goods, in order to tackle a huge black market and ultimately prevent some of the 700,000 deaths each year in the EU from smoking-related diseases.

The legislation, which takes effect over the next two years, is part of a package that also slaps no-holds-barred pictures of the health effects of smoking on packets, and bans menthol. Alongside it, an international treaty ratified by 178 countries - the Framework Convention on Tobacco Control (FCTC) - aims to ensure similar measures are introduced right across the world.

There's one problem, however: The big international tobacco firms - Philip Morris International (PM.N), British American, Japan Tobacco (2914.T) and Imperial Tobacco (IMT.L) already use a track and trace system called Codentify, developed by Philip Morris, which they say works perfectly well.

They do not want to have to add costly third-party systems to their massive operations, which turned out more than 2 trillion cigarettes last year.

"Our biggest concern is proprietary solution providers pushing unproven solutions on to governments," said Daniel Hubert, BAT's supply chain tracking and verification program manager and a director of the Digital Coding & Tracking Association (DCTA), a group made up of BAT, Philip Morris, Japan Tobacco and Imperial.

But tobacco industry critics say Codentify is simply not good enough, because it focuses too much on production and does not store product codes or track them. Last year Luk Joossens, advocacy officer of the Association of European Cancer Leagues, and Anna Gilmore, director of the University of Bath's Tobacco Control Research Group, published a report listing the system's technical and ethical limitations.

"Codentify is not up to the task and worse than that, it puts the fox in charge of the hen-house," Gilmore told Reuters.

In response, Big Tobacco acknowledges that Codentify only does part of the job, and says critics fail to include third-party technology used alongside it to make it fully compliant.

EU member states have two years to bring their national legislation into line with the new tobacco directives. So most of the new rules will apply in the first half of 2016. In the interim, experts are analyzing the feasibility and cost of a range of alternative track and trace options from security printing companies and IT/data processing companies, and will report back at the end of the year.

For now it is not clear what they will recommend, but industry sources doubt Codentify will be adopted without at least significant changes.

"There's a lot of resistance to allowing the tobacco industry to use its own technology," said Euromonitor International analyst Shane MacGuill.

WHO MAKES POLICY?

Track and trace technology aims to pinpoint cracks in the supply chain where cigarettes fall into illicit trade, which according to the WHO, makes up about 10 percent of the global tobacco market, robs governments of over $30 billion a year in taxes and undermines public health goals with a cheap supply.

In order to comply with the EU laws, governments must impose complex control systems on manufacturers that track every pack from factory floor to store shelf, through all the hands it passes with details such as time and place of production, intended market, names of buyers and payment records.

The industry has reason to help. By stamping out illicit trade, it would recoup millions in annual revenue lost to counterfeits and lower the chances of costly "seizure payments" when its goods turn up contraband.

Over three days in March, private investigators working for Philip Morris say they made 23 purchases of illicit tobacco in London's central borough of Westminster, from well-known international brands to so-called illicit whites - fake cigarette labels made outside the EU especially for smuggling.

"If we're finding product here, what is it like elsewhere in more of the deprived areas?" said Will O'Reilly, a former Detective Chief Inspector with the Metropolitan Police now working for Philip Morris, the world's No. 1 tobacco company.

In 2012 Philip Morris donated 15 million euros ($20.42 million) over three years to Interpol - the world's biggest police force, which had total operating income of 70 million euros that year - to help it fight the black market.

Interpol says the donation was in full compliance of its rules which allow it to accept private money "when it is in the best interests of the organization to do so ... and when Interpol itself decides how the money is to be used."

But skeptics say that help from the industry allows it to maintain influence with governments and public agencies.

This is particularly worrying, they say, given historical evidence of links between the industry and smugglers: Several cigarette makers have been accused of oversupplying markets with porous borders on the edge of the EU, or other low-tax markets, in order to benefit from the additional revenues.

In 2004 Marlboro-maker Philip Morris struck a $1.25 billion deal with EU regulators to end a legal dispute over its role in smuggling cigarettes into the bloc. Japan Tobacco, maker of the Winston and Camel brands, settled a similar dispute in 2007, and BAT and Imperial, maker of Gauloises, reached voluntary agreements with EU regulators in 2010. Their combined payments were around $2 billion.

SCALE OF THE CHALLENGE

The industry's current standard, Codentify, which is used in 50 world markets, focuses on product authentication, volume control and tax verification. It does not store codes, create a database or register the product's journey - hence critics' claims that the system is inadequate.

Back at BAT's plant midway between Berlin and Munich, Bernd Meyer, head of manufacturing for Western Europe, oversees operations that track cartons of Lucky Strikes and Pall Malls from production line to first customer, usually a wholesaler.

However, shipments often pass through several independent distributors after that, and gathering that information is the biggest challenge.

Another difficulty is tracking individual packs - which are packed inside cartons that are fitted into cases that are placed onto pallets, which are loaded onto trucks that leave Bayreuth, BAT's largest factory by volume, at a rate of about 40 per day.

Meyer says he is in the process of implementing changes expected to cost 100 million to 200 million euros, some of which relate to track and trace.

With the Codentify technology Meyer is installing, the Digital Coding & Tracking Association says each production line will have a code generator that feeds into a central server overseen by a government. Each pack would be printed with unique codes, which would link to the codes on cartons and cases and be scannable in transit - allowing the government and customs agents to trace its journey.

"We are intensifying our work in this area," Meyer told Reuters. "It's a lot of money because you have to equip every single machine with that track and trace technology."

Nonetheless, critics still question whether Codentify meets the independence test, especially that of the FCTC, which states that "obligations assigned to a party (country) shall not be performed by or delegated to the tobacco industry."

To get around this, the industry says it is willing to hand over Codentify's intellectual property or open itself to audits. "We're open to any level of inspection," said BAT's Hubert, on behalf of the DCTA.

THE PRICE OF INDEPENDENCE

Any alternative system will be pricey, insiders say.

"By definition, any system where they self-regulate and where they choose the functionality they want is going to be cheaper than any system that comes from the outside," said Christine Macqueen, director of corporate affairs for SICPA, a Swiss company that sells rival authentication technology.

It is also likely to be multi-layered as countries will have different needs and thus need different functionalities.

Several different options are on the table at the moment.

SIPCA, which operates a tobacco tracking programs in Brazil and Morocco and could benefit from Codentify's rejection, says it offers among other things data aggregation from pack to carton and carton to master case, and supply chain visibility by consolidating data from SICPA systems and other sources.

Britain's De La Rue (DLAR.L), which also makes banknotes and passports, provides authentication systems alongside track and trace solutions that include tax stamps, although some in the industry worry that affixable stamps can be removed.

In fact, the EU's feasibility experts are more likely to recommend standards or business requirements than specific technologies, says Michael Eads, president of Sovereign Border Solutions, one of the companies carrying out the EU's feasibility study.

Their aim, he added, is to find a standard that takes into account not just the mandates of law enforcement and public health but also consumer protection and business efficiency.

"That's the holy grail," Eads told Reuters, then added: "Whether or not we can achieve that with this particular project, I'm not sure."