(UBS) Zodiac : Profit warning driven mainly by settlement provisions, but operat

Profit warning driven mainly by settlement provisions, but operations on track

FY16 operating profit 10% lower vs. expectations but recovery on track
Zodiac issued a PW on Friday after market close. Full year sales are in line with previous
expectations – implying organic revenue growth in Q4. However, FY16 operating profit
is expected to be around 10% below cons. expectations of €302-303m. We estimate
that the circa €30m lower profits could be explained as: a) two thirds from higher
provisions related to settlements; b) one third due to weakness in the helicopter market
OE and AM. Furthermore Zodiac expects to satisfy the Net Debt/ Adj. EBITDA <3x
covenant for the full year implying, we believe, significant progress on improving cash
generation driven by working capital relief in Q4. Management confirms ZC is on its
trajectory of progress towards full operating recovery in Interiors by the end of 2017.

Good progress on A350 cabin deliveries, still work to be done on the ramp up
Two articles published on Friday in Les Echos and L'Usine Novelle suggest: 1) Zodiac
delivered its 64th A350 lavatory set implying good progress on the A350 production line
with only 6 sets still to deliver (UBSe) to meet Airbus' 50 a/c delivery target for 2016;
Current management attention is focused on the ramp up to 70 a/c delivery for 2017.
2) ZC opened up 7 factories to the press and the conclusions are aligned with the
company's guidance – while operational progress can be observed there is still work to
be done in our view until a return to full operating performance.

How would we expect investors to react?
While the initial market reaction to a new PW may be negative, we believe it should be
mitigated by: 1) ZC's underperformance vs. aerospace peers of 18% since the UK Leave
vote, and 11% since Q3 Sales; 2) profit miss is driven mainly by settlement provisions
while Zodiac is making good progress on operational improvements, 3) implied
improving cash generation in H2, 4) ex provisions we calculate H2 margin of 7.9%, not
far vs. FY 17 expectations (UBSe 8.5%, cons 8.8%). We expect ZC to provide more
granularity and offer guidance/indications on FY 2017 profits on 14th Sept.

Valuation: trades on 13.7x 2017 EV/EBITA, 17.6x 2017 P/E
Our €19.5 DCF price target is based on 9% WACC, 5-year profit growth of 20.5%
CAGR from FY15/16E and cash conversion of 82%, which implies a fair value multiple
of 22x FY15/16E EV/EBITA.

>>> What to look at today - 5th of September 2016

Asia equity markets are rising in the wake of a somewhat disappointing non-farm payrolls report out of the US on Friday. Outside of the delayed impact from US jobs data, Asia economic calendar was dominated by Services and Composite PMI figures. China Caixin Services saw a slight bounce to 52.1 from 51.7, and economists noted business activity driven by new project, stabilization in staffing, rising backlogs, and higher input prices. In Hong Kong, composite PMI came out in contraction for the 18th straight month, but that decline also narrowed. Here, economists noted less pressure on operating capacity and more slack in staffing, as employment declined for 8th straight month. While the worst of Hong Kong slowdown was seen as being over, economist still called for "sustained recovery (needing) to take place, which may be challenging given the relatively weak global economic environment." BOJ Gov Kuroda acknowledged that negative rates policy has had some side effects such as deterioration of bank profits, but also reiterated central bank's commitment to do utmost to achieve 2% inflation target and willingness to go deeper in the red on rates.

Nikkei +0.58% Hang Seng +1.61% CSI 0.19% Shanghai +0.17%

Eur$ 1.1179 CNH 6.6871 CNY 6.6763 JPY 103.36 GBP 1.3323 CHF 0.9786 RUB$64.9913 WTI$ 44.28 (+0.29%)

S&P +0.17% EuroStoxx +0.36% Dax +0.43% SMI +0.35%

Macro :
- G-20 Statement Said to Make Reference to Steel Market Glut
- Russia Needs to Cut Key Rate Much Faster Than Now: VTB’s Kostin
- OECD Says Central Banks Near Limits to Stimulate Growth: Reuters
- May Warns of ‘Difficulties Times Ahead’ for U.K. Economy
- With Nowhere to Go, This $64 Billion Asset Manager Bets on VIX
- Draghi Nears His QE3 as ECB Seen Relying on Ever-More Stimulus
- Nikkei India Aug. Composite PMI 54.6 vs 52.4 in July


Keep an eye on :
- AC FP : Accor Keen to Increase Presence in Japan, Myanmar, India: BT
- ADP FP : ADP Tariffs Approved by Regulator After Initial Rejection
- AF FP : Air France-KLM CEO to Present New Plan to Board Nov. 2: Tribune
- ATC NA : Altice Offers 8 Shares for 5 of SFR in Recommended Bid
- AZN LN : AstraZeneca’s Benralizumab Shows Positive Results in Asthma
- IF IM : Banca Ifis Is Considering Buying EU2b Bad Loans by Year End
- BAYN GY : Bayer Supervisory Bd May Discuss Higher Monsanto Bid Sep 14: RP
- BLT LN : BHP Billiton Says Higher Iron Ore Tax ‘Bad Policy’: AFR, May Says Still Deliberating on Hinkley, Hasn’t Decided Yet
- CABK SM : CaixaBank Mulls Pulling Banco BPI Bid, El Confidencial Reports
- CA FP : Carrefour Planning IPO of Brazil Unit for First Half 2017: Globo
- CO FP : Carrefour Planning IPO of Brazil Unit for First Half 2017: Globo
- EDF FP : EDF Says U.K. May Need to Take GBP6b Stake in Hinkley Point: FT (Sent Friday)
- EDF FP : Scottish Power CEO Says Hinkley Deal Too Expensive: S. Telegraph
- EDF FP : EDF, CGN May Receive More Than GBP100b Over 35Y for Hinkley: FT
- EAON GY : E.ON CEO Sees Turbulent Uniper IPO, Possible Writedowns: FAS
- EXOR IM : Exor Shareholders Approve Merger Into Dutch Holding Company
- FCA IM : Elkann Says Spoke With Samsung’s Lee on Marelli, Other Topics
- GKP LN : Capital Group Said to Provide $20m to Gulf Keystone: Telegraph
- ISP IM : Intesa Chairman Says Confident Monte Paschi Issue to Be Solved
- KPN NA : KPN Reports Disruption to Dutch Internet Service in Tweet
- LBTYA US : Liberty Media to Buy Formula One Stake: Auto, Motor und Sport
- MKS LN : M&S to Cut About 500 Jobs at London Head Office, Sky News Says
- MON US : Bayer Supervisory Bd May Discuss Higher Monsanto Bid Sep 14: RP
- NG/ LN : N.Grid gas network bid group lines up Balfour Beatty chairman to bolster approach as Borealis pulls out
- NOVN VX : Novartis Gets FDA Orphan Status for Dabrafenib And Trametinib
- NOVOB DC : Novo Nordisk FDA Extends Regulatory IDegLira Review by 3 Months
- ORA FP : Orange Plans to Start Bank in February, Les Echos Says
- PST IM : Italy Sale of 2nd Poste Italiane Stake May Be Delayed: Corriere
- RWE GY : RWE’s Atomic Risk Seen Longer by Paying by Installments: Spiegel
- SAN FP : Sanofi Seeks U.S. Funding in Race to Develop Vaccine for Zika
- SFR FP : Altice Offers 8 Shares for 5 of SFR in Recommended Bid
- SKY LN : CVC Plans GBP1.5b Listing for Sky Bet, Sunday Telegraph (20% own by SKY )
- SPW LN : Scottish Power CEO Says Hinkley Deal Too Expensive: S. Telegraph
- TEF SM : Telefonica Said to Plan Telxius IPO Filing as Soon as Monday
- TEF SM : Telefonica Eyes GBP10b Float of O2 Stake by Yr-End: Telegraph
- TFI FP : TF1 to Restore Profits Via Targeted Advertising, CEO Tells Echos
- TPZ SM : Telepizza 1H Revenue Rises 1% to EU165.6 Million
- UBER IPO : Uber Tried to Buy Lyft in 2014, CEO Kalanick Tells The Economist
- VOLVB SS : Volvo Plans to Start Self-Driving Tests in China Next Year
- VOW3 GY : VW Sued by Ex-Bentley Chief Over Patent Payout: Spiegel
- ZC FP : Zodiac Aerospace Says Operating Income to Miss Street Est.

>>> Europe : Brokers Upgrades & Downgrades - 5th of September 2016

>>> Up
*ALDERMORE RAISED TO BUY VS HOLD AT DEUTSCHE BANK
*AURUBIS RAISED TO OUTPERFORM VS NEUTRAL AT EXANE
*LINDE RAISED TO NEUTRAL VS SELL AT CITI
*NEXANS RAISED TO BUY VS REDUCE AT KEPLER CHEUVREUX
*OPEN FINANCE RAISED TO BUY VS NEUTRAL AT CITI
*PERNOD RAISED TO BUY AT HSBC
*SCOR SE RAISED TO HOLD AT JEFFERIES
*TATNEFT RAISED TO BUY AT HSBC
*TEMENOS RAISED TO OUTPERFORM VS NEUTRAL AT CREDIT SUISSE
*ZOOPLA RAISED TO OVERWEIGHT VS EQUALWEIGHT AT BARCLAYS

>>> Down
*HELLENIC PETROLEUM CUT TO HOLD AT HSBC
*HUGO BOSS CUT TO SELL VS NEUTRAL AT UBS
*INFINEON CUT TO REDUCE VS NEUTRAL AT ODDO SEYDLER
*LEONTEQ CUT TO UNDERPERFORM VS NEUTRAL AT CREDIT SUISSE
*LLOYDS CUT TO HOLD VS BUY AT DEUTSCHE BANK
*MTU AERO ENGINES CUT TO NEUTRAL VS BUY AT GOLDMAN
*RBS CUT TO SELL VS HOLD AT DEUTSCHE BANK
*SOCGEN CUT TO REDUCE VS ADD AT ALPHAVALUE

>>> PT Change
*EFG INTERNATIONAL PT SET AT CHF6.5 AT CREDIT SUISSE

>>> Initiation
*AROUNDTOWN RATED NEW BUY AT UBS; PT EU6
*EFG INTERNATIONAL PT SET AT CHF6.5 AT CREDIT SUISSE
*EFG HERMES REINITIATED AT HOLD AT RENCAP; PT EGP13.5
*GRAND CITY RATED NEW BUY AT UBS; PT EU23
*LOTOS RATED NEW BUY AT HSBC
*REMY COINTREAU RATED BUY AT HSBC, PT EU80; WAS RESTRICTED

>>> Call

>>> BPI bidder CaixaBank considers withdrawing offer

BPI bidder CaixaBank considers withdrawing offer 

CaixaBank is considering withdrawing its 100% takeover offer for Banco Portugués de Investimento (BPI) after a new legal obstacle arose, El Confidencial reported.

According to the Spanish-language report, which cited sources close to the process, a decision will be announced within days. Official sources from the Spanish bank declined to comment, the item noted.

CaixaBank’s intensifying pessimism comes after BPI shareholder Violas Ferreira Financial (2.6%) successfully submitted to the court its claim to suspend the changes proposed by BPI’s board to remove the voting limitation that prevented CaixaBank from controlling BPI.

Moreover, BPI minority investor Tiago Violas is asking for a higher price for his shares, the report noted.

BPI’s board of directors has approved CaixaBank’s EUR 1.113 per share offer.

CaixaBank currently holds 44% of BPI.

El Confidencial

>>> Asian Update

Asia Mid-Session Market Update: Stocks rise as softer NFPs in US relieve worries over rapid Fed tightening; Regional Services PMIs are mixed


***Economic Data***
- (CN) CHINA AUG CAIXIN PMI SERVICES: 52.1 V 51.7 PRIOR
- (JP) JAPAN JULY LABOR CASH EARNINGS Y/Y: 1.4% (4-month high) V 0.4%E ; REAL EARNINGS (EX-INFLATION) Y/Y: 2.0% V 0.7%E
- (HK) HONG KONG AUG COMPOSITE PMI: 49.0 V 47.2 PRIOR; 18th consecutive month of contraction
- (AU) AUSTRALIA Q2 COMPANY OPERATING PROFIT Q/Q: 6.9% V 2.0%E; INVENTORIES Q/Q: 0.3% V 0.3%E
- (AU) AUSTRALIA AUG ANZ JOB ADVERTISEMENTS M/M: 1.8% V -0.8% PRIOR
- (AU) AUSTRALIA AUG MELBOURNE INSTITUTE INFLATION M/M: 0.2% V -0.3% PRIOR; Y/Y: 1.2% V 1.0% PRIOR
- (AU) AUSTRALIA AUG AIG PERF OF SERVICES INDEX: 45.0 V 53.9 PRIOR (21-month low; 1st contraction in 4-months)
- (JP) JAPAN AUG SERVICES PMI: 49.6 V 50.4 PRIOR; COMPOSITE PMI: 49.8 V 50.1 PRIOR
- (NZ) New Zealand real estate agency Barfoot & Thompson: Auckland Aug avg house price +4.5% m/m v -4.5% prior; 10.4% y/y v +4.9% prior
- (KR) South Korea Aug Foreign Reserves: $375.5B v $371.4B prior; record high
- (UK) JULY AUG BRC SHOP PRICE INDEX Y/Y: -2.0% V -1.6% PRIOR (40TH MONTH OF DECLINE)

***Index Snapshot (as of 04:00 GMT)***
- Nikkei225 +1.1%, S&P/ASX +1.0%, Kospi +1.0%, Shanghai Composite +0.2%, Hang Seng +1.7%, Sep S&P500 +0.1% at 2,181

***Commodities/Fixed Income***
- Dec gold flat at $1,328/oz, Oct crude oil -0.1% at $44.09/brl, Dec copper +0.4% at $2.09/lb
- (SA) Saudi Arabia lowers contract prices for crude oil in Europe and raises prices in Asia - financial press
- (CN) PBOC to inject CNY20B in 7-day reverse repos and CNY10B in 14-day reverse repos
- USD/CNY: (CN) PBOC SETS YUAN MID POINT AT 6.6873 V 6.6727 PRIOR
- (KR) South Korea MoF sells 5-yr bonds at 1.345%

***Market Focal Points/FX***
- Asia equity markets are rising in the wake of a somewhat disappointing non-farm payrolls report out of the US on Friday. While +150K figure was much better than the shockingly low print in the spring, it was still well below 180K consensus and enough to knock down expectations of a rate hike this month by a meaningful amount. According to Fed funds futures, probability of a Sept FOMC rate hike has fallen to 21% while that of 2016-end high at about 50%. Last week, year-end hike likelihood was above 60% and that of Sept above 30%. In FX, USD has remained under pressure virtually across the board - USD/JPY was down as much as 50pips below 103.60, AUD/USD rose over 30pips toward 0.76 level, and NZD/USD was up over 50pips above 0.7330.

- Outside of the delayed impact from US jobs data, Asia economic calendar was dominated by Services and Composite PMI figures. China Caixin Services saw a slight bounce to 52.1 from 51.7, and economists noted business activity driven by new project, stabilization in staffing, rising backlogs, and higher input prices. In Hong Kong, composite PMI came out in contraction for the 18th straight month, but that decline also narrowed. Here, economists noted less pressure on operating capacity and more slack in staffing, as employment declined for 8th straight month. While the worst of Hong Kong slowdown was seen as being over, economist still called for "sustained recovery (needing) to take place, which may be challenging given the relatively weak global economic environment."

- Among notable speakers, BOJ Gov Kuroda acknowledged that negative rates policy has had some side effects such as deterioration of bank profits, but also reiterated central bank's commitment to do utmost to achieve 2% inflation target and willingness to go deeper in the red on rates. Kuroda said the benefits of achieving 2% inflation in a timely basis outweigh the risk, staying committed to all 3 policy options to meet objective. Going into the Kuroda address, a Nikkei report speculated there may be some consideration of side effects of negative rates in BOJ's evaluation of its policy framework going into the Sept 20th meeting.

- In Australia, this week's RBA meeting will be Gov Stevens' last, and according to one survey, economists are unanimous in expectation for rates to remain on hold. Fixed income markets are pricing in just under 50% chance of a rate cut before the end of the year. RBNZ meanwhile has confirmed it is implementing macroprudential measures on the property sector. Beginning Oct 1st, residential property investors will generally need a 40% deposit for a mortgage loan, and owner-occupiers will need a 20% deposit. The measures could potentially pave the way to more RBNZ easing, especially if the diminished case for Fed easing produces unwelcome rise in the NZD.

WSJ Global Economy Week Ahead

Global Economy Week Ahead: Central Bankers’ Outlooks, ECB Bond Buys, China Inflation


Central bankers take center stage this week as officials from the Bank of Japan and the U.S. Federal Reserve give closely watched speeches ahead of policy meetings later this month. Also, the European Central Bank caps off a two-day policy meeting on Thursday. Elsewhere, the U.K.’s new Treasury chief will make his first appearance before the House of Lords and China reports data on inflation.

MONDAY: Bank of Japan Gov. Haruhiko Kuroda will make his last public appearance (10:30 p.m. EDT Sunday) before a closely watched policy meeting Sept. 20-21, where many economists expect the central bank to boost its campaign against deflation. Market participants are set to scrutinize every word for clues on whether he is inclined to deepen negative rates, expand quantitative easing or both.

TUESDAY: The president of the Federal Reserve Board of San Francisco, John Williams, will give his outlook for the U.S. economy in Reno, Nev. Mr. Williams is considered closely aligned with Chairwoman Janet Yellen, who in a speech last month left the door open for a rate increase as soon as the central bank’s Sept. 20-21 policy meeting. A new batch of mixed economic data may have muddied that outlook.

THURSDAY: ECB President Mario Draghi will take center stage in Frankfurt after the central bank’s two-day policy meeting. The ECB isn’t expected to alter its policy mix but most investors expect an extension of an €80 billion-a-month bond-purchase program. Economists are divided over whether Mr. Draghi will announce such a move this week. Recent economic data appear to show the eurozone weathering Britain’s shock vote to leave the European Union, but inflation remains far below the ECB’s near-2% target.

U.K. Treasury chief Philip Hammond is scheduled for a grilling on the economy from lawmakers in Britain’s House of Lords in his first parliamentary hearing since taking office in July. News on the economy since the Brexit vote has been mixed, and Mr. Hammond’s remarks will be followed closely for clues to the tax and spending plans he is due to set out before the end of the year.

FRIDAY: China will report inflation data as markets look at whether another deceleration in consumer CPI—which was 1.8% in July, down from 1.9% in June—will give the central bank more latitude to ease monetary policy as the economy slows.

Barron's : Byron Wien: Smart Money Says U.S. Stocks are Best

Byron Wien: Smart Money Says U.S. Stocks are Best

The Blackstone strategist hosts lunches every August with financial experts. Here is what they see ahead.

Two conclusions emerged from the Benchmark Lunches this year. The first was that the world was condemned to a prolonged period of slow growth unless vigorous fiscal spending took place in the major industrialized economies. Monetary policy had been helpful in the recovery after the 2008–2009 recession, but its effectiveness as an economic stimulus had diminished. The second was that considering the uncertainties caused by margin compression, limited revenue growth, the U.S. political outlook, terrorism, Brexit and other factors, the fact that the U.S. equity market is making an all-time high is remarkable.

Every year I organize four Friday lunches for serious investors who spend their summer weekends in eastern Long Island. These sessions have evolved over the past 30 years from a single lunch for five people to four lunches in different venues for over 100. Participants include billionaires and academics, hedge fund managers, private equity leaders, corporate chiefs and real estate titans. Leading Republican and Democrat fundraisers interact with each other. The lunches are not social affairs; I actively moderate a discussion of the key issues for almost two hours at each session.

As you might expect, the conclusions of a group like this might serve as a contrary indicator, and sometimes they do. But in August 2001, one participant had warned of a major terrorist attack in the United States during the following year, and last summer a number of attendees thought the appeal of Donald Trump’s message was underestimated and he had a good chance to be the Republican nominee. In any case, those who came to the sessions this year were sufficiently confused that they listened carefully in search of an insight that would help them find clarity in the outlook.

There were three major narratives threaded through the four lunches. The first was how important a factor populism was in the United Kingdom referendum that resulted in the decision to “leave” the European Union. The movement also played a significant role in Donald Trump’s ascendency to the Republican nomination and Bernie Sanders’ surprisingly strong showing in the Democratic primaries. The second was low world productivity, which improved at 1.8% in the 1964–2014 period and was expected to increase .9% over the next 50 years, but was only up half of that recently. In the U.S., productivity was actually down .4% in the second quarter of this year. Profit growth and standard of living increases depend on productivity improvement. The third was “secular stagnation” caused by technology and globalization that has resulted in the slowing of the growth rate of the United States from more than 3% in the period 1945–2007 to a struggling 2% now.

While the initial investor reaction to the Brexit vote was negative, two months later the impact appears to be largely local. The pound has declined more than 20%, asset values in the U.K. are down by 10% and the prospects for a recession in Britain have risen significantly. In Europe, the risk of contagion would appear to have diminished somewhat, although there were some recent murmurings out of Italy, but right after the U.K. referendum, Spain added seats to the establishment party. The French and German elections next year will be important. Overall, the group at the lunches believed that the slow European recovery would continue in spite of Britain’s vote to leave the EU. One knowledgeable observer said that the impact on the world economy may be unnoticeable several years from now. It will take two years from the invocation of Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty to implement the departure and during that period Britain will negotiate trade treaties that will soften the negative effect of leaving. Both sides will be practical; Europe has too much to lose by trying to punish the U.K. economically. The big issue is immigration. Britain will now be able to make it harder for Middle Easterners to settle and work in their country. Europe will make it harder for British citizens to travel in Europe, but there may be special visas to ease the border difficulties.

We had an extensive discussion at all the lunches about the productivity question. Prominent executives from West Coast technology institutions were participants. Everyone knew that the productivity numbers were disappointing, but many questioned the way productivity was being measured. It was hard to believe that the smartphone with all of its new applications wasn’t adding to productivity. There were a million Uber drivers earning or supplementing their income by providing on-demand transportation; you could do your job from remote locations with great effectiveness; there was almost no information you could not retrieve instantaneously. On the downside, everyone acknowledged that millions of manufacturing jobs had been eliminated through robotics and other forms of technology. The employee attrition problem was likely to get worse as artificial intelligence becomes more prevalent as a tool in the white collar workplace, eliminating jobs in law firms, healthcare and elsewhere. Where will these displaced workers go?

Those worried about productivity and inequality were perhaps not recognizing changes in the “quality” of life. Technology had definitely made our lives easier even if this isn’t reflected in the productivity numbers. Also, someone living in “poverty” in the United States probably has a residence, a refrigerator, television and other amenities not enjoyed by those in poverty in other countries. While this may be true, I do believe that a substantial portion of Americans go to sleep scared every night. They don’t have a job; they have one but it doesn’t cover all their bills; they have a good job but they are worried that business conditions or technology will cause them to lose it. Sanders, Trump and populism generally are products of an insecure population. They feel that their government’s policies have let them down.

Perhaps the productivity problem is not as complicated as we make it out to be. When the economy is growing reasonably rapidly, say at 3% plus, companies are slow to hire new workers and the existing workers produce more. When the economy is growing slowly, say at 2% or less as now, even though technology enables companies to produce more with fewer workers, managers are reluctant to reduce the workforce and productivity declines.

Adding to this problem are the impressive advances being made in healthcare and surgical procedures. Doctors can now perform operations more effectively and more economically than ever before. The result will be that many people will live longer with a better quality of life than any previous generation. Life expectancy is increasing by several weeks a year in the U.S. When you put all of this together you have a larger aging population being supported by a diminishing number of workers who hold jobs that provide incomes that enable them to have a comfortable middle-class life. The inequality problem has grown in the last two decades and may get worse. Stronger growth would help create more well-paying jobs, but the top brackets may earn even more as prosperity improves, widening the inequality gap even further. Improving our educational system could alleviate the problem, but the progress there seems agonizingly slow. Charter schools have been providing encouraging prospects for part of the population, but on-line education had not gotten the traction everyone had hoped for. It wasn’t enough to have a student sit before a screen working on a well-conceived learning program. Teachers to provide guidance and inspiration and other students to foster an academic atmosphere were needed to enrich the experience.

The third theme was “secular stagnation,” a term developed by Harvard professor Alvin Hansen in the 1930s, to describe the prolonged period of slow growth that he thought would follow the Great Depression. He was wrong, but the term has been resurrected by Larry Summers and others to describe the difficulties economies have when they are trying to come out of a recession in which both an economic and a financial decline occurred, as in 2008–2009. Monetary policy was the principal tool used across the world. The United States and others used selected fiscal measures as well, particularly at the beginning, but monetary policy, which requires no legislative approval, was the instrument used most extensively. In 2007 the balance sheets of the central banks of the United States, England, the European Union and Japan had total assets of $3.5 trillion; today, according to Bianco Research, the aggregate is more than $12 trillion. The slow pace of world growth is troubling when monetary policy has been so expansive. But central banks have had no incentive to stop printing it, because inflation has not followed the enormous growth in money. Milton Friedman must be rolling in his grave.

Terrorism continues to be a threat to world financial stability and periodic incidents are unlikely to end. ISIS can be contained but probably not defeated. The Zika problem reminds us that the uncontrollable spread of infectious disease represents a lurking natural terror. The climate change problem is real, but not immediate and it is hard to get policy makers to focus on it, despite rising temperatures and sea levels. Only 50% of the public think this is a serious problem; 16% do not; the rest are undecided. That’s why it’s hard to get governments to act. According to some climate experts, in 200 years most major cities will be in danger, but there is not a sense of urgency that will get world leaders to deal with this problem now.

Almost everyone agreed that the time has come for more fiscal spending on infrastructure, education, job training, research and development and other programs to improve growth and increase competitiveness. One participant knowledgeable in municipal finance pointed out that state and local governments were now amortizing more debt than they were incurring, thereby not investing enough to reduce the infrastructure problem. The companies that are doing well are the “disrupters” like Amazon (ticker: AMZN ), Google ( GOOGL ), Apple ( AAPL ), Airbnb, Uber, Netflix ( NFLX ) and similar companies. The “old economy” companies will continue to face challenges from margin pressure and foreign competition. Excessive regulation is also a problem that limits growth, as does labor union inflexibility. This may have a dampening effect on the market multiple in the long term, but it sure isn’t evident now. There was a feeling in the group that American consumers had enough “stuff” and their spending money on experiences and services rather than goods was having a negative impact on growth.

At each lunch I ask the participants for their views on various asset categories. As the lunches proceeded and the market moved higher there were fewer bears. At the beginning, half of the group thought that the S&P 500 might be flat to down for the year by Christmas and the other half thought it would be up by 10% or more. Few saw a recession brewing before 2018. There were many bulls on gold at one lunch and almost none at another. More people expected the dollar to head toward 1.05 against the euro, but there were some dollar bears (at 1.20) as well. Conviction that oil (West Texas Intermediate) would be above $50 a barrel at year-end was high, while almost no one thought it would be below $40. There was a general feeling that interest rates were headed higher, but nobody thought the move would be large or that it would occur soon. The group slightly favored raising the minimum wage to $12. The consensus was that the current favorable but unspectacular performance of equities would continue. The U.S. was still considered the best place to invest in spite of all its problems, but there was nobody who expressed table-pounding enthusiasm about an investment idea.

As for China, the general feeling was that the economy had picked up some strength in 2016 and the fear of a hard landing had diminished. While the non-performing debt problem was worrisome, it was not likely to bring down the whole economy and there was a sizable minority of investors willing to put money there. Chinese consumers were holding back on their spending because of a lack of government-supported healthcare and retirement programs. Some of the macro people were concerned about strained diplomatic relations between the U.S. and China. Part of this was related to disagreements about territorial rights in the South China Sea and the buildup of military bases there and part to confusion about the Trans-Pacific Partnership. India continues to be the most popular Asian investment, but it is ranked very low in terms of ease of doing business. What was surprising was the increasing interest in the emerging markets, including Argentina, Peru and the Middle East. Nobody, however, had an appetite for investing in Africa.

In the past we could always count on the real estate people at the lunches to provide some optimism. This year their comments were more mixed. The effects of the internet on retailing are significant, having an impact not only on shopping malls, but also on urban retail rentals. Office rentals are still okay, and warehouses are doing well, but there has been some overbuilding of residential condominiums. While apartment rentals continue to be in strong demand, rents are softer. The outlook there is good, however, because we are not building enough housing units to keep up with family formations. If interest rates rise, 3% cap rates won’t look so attractive for commercial property.

Since this is a presidential election year a part of each session was naturally devoted to politics. A number of those attending had been major contributors to the Republican Party in the past. Some of them were supporting Donald Trump. Some were not voting for either Trump or Clinton; a few were voting for Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate. Many thought a Trump presidency would put the country at risk. One strong Trump supporter suggested that I not take The Donald’s statements literally. He said they were “metaphors” for what Trump believed. When he says he’ll build a wall with Mexico, he means he’ll do something about immigration. When he says he’ll prevent Muslims from entering the country, he means he’ll be very tight on entry screening. There were a few who expected Trump to be president. Most thought he had hurt his brand by running. When he entered the race more than a year ago, he thought the downside was that his brand would be enhanced whether or not he got the nomination.

Some said Trump might do surprisingly well in the debates because Clinton was so vulnerable. He was likely to hit her hard on her personal e-mail server, her failure to protect the Americans in Benghazi, her performance as Secretary of State, her fundraising for the Clinton Foundation while she was a cabinet officer and her relationship with her husband. Most participants believed Hillary Clinton would be the next president and that the Senate would shift to a Democratic majority by perhaps one vote. The Republicans would lose a number of House of Representatives seats as well, but would retain a majority. Clinton would essentially continue Obama’s center-left policies but there would be no drastic changes out of Washington. That’s perhaps another reason the market has been working its way higher.

As I reviewed my notes for the four lunches, I noted a mood of complacency. The setting was pleasant, the food good and the weather agreeable. All of the attendees had done well in their careers. Some truly frightening possibilities were looming out there, but they didn’t seem imminent. The intermediate future was likely to be like the recent past: lower but positive returns. Let’s see if that’s the way the next year plays out.