The Information : Snap’s Spiegel: Company Is on ‘Cusp’ of Computing Transformati

Snap’s Spiegel: Company Is on ‘Cusp’ of Computing Transformation

The Takeaway
• Spiegel hopeful AR glasses will be bigger than Apple Watch
• Spiegel says super-voting rights helped company stick to long-term bets
• Snap will allow Trump back on the platform

Snap CEO Evan Spiegel defended his company’s ability to stay independent despite competition from deep-pocketed rivals like Meta Platforms, predicting that the Snapchat parent was on “the cusp of a real transformation in the way that people think about and use computers.”

That transformation, Spiegel said, will involve his company’s augmented reality glasses, Spectacles. He said that he expected consumers to widely adopt AR glasses by the end of the decade and that he hoped they would be “a lot bigger than the Apple Watch,” a popular Apple product that he described as “a phone accessory.”

Spiegel reiterated his belief in AR in a wide-ranging conversation at The Information’s The Future of Influence event in Los Angeles on Tuesday. He also spoke about his attitude toward selling the company, Snap’s relationship with President Donald Trump, and his thoughts on the government’s attempts to force Facebook-owner Meta to sell Instagram and WhatsApp.

The government’s recent antitrust trial against Meta revealed that Snap turned down a $6 billion acquisition offer from Facebook in 2013. “It was really hard for us to imagine joining one of those companies and then really staying true to those values” of creating a platform different from other social media companies, Spiegel said, in rare public remarks about that period.

As to whether he would consider a sale in the future, he noted the company is focused on its vision “to help create the next computing platform.”

“As long as we can stay true to our values and stay true to our vision, that’s really what’s important to us as a business, and we’d consider anything in light of that,” he said.

Snap first introduced its AR glasses in 2016 and now is in the fifth generation of the device, which it currently sells only to developers. Spiegel acknowledged that he was able to pursue his long-term vision of creating a new platform for computing because he and his co-founder Bobby Murphy have super-voting shares that give them control of most matters presented to shareholders.

“If investors aren’t aligned with our long-term vision, then they can sell our stock and go buy another stock where they see more long-term opportunity,” he said.

He said Snap has gone through these periods before, when “people don’t see the long-term opportunity with glasses, or they don’t see that progress yet, and they wonder why we’re spending all this money”—only to see those bets, say on disappearing stories, pay off.

By 2018, Snap’s share price had fallen to about one-third of its $17 initial public offer price, dropping to less than $5 before surging to an all-time high of more than $83 in 2021. It’s now down nearly 90% from that peak, to just over $8.

“While folks may be disappointed that we’re not making more cash today, I think there’s a lot of investors who appreciate and understand our consistent ability to innovate and also actually really value our ability to invest over time.”

Snap’s free cash flow surged six times last year, to $219 million, though it’s never turned an annual profit on a net income basis.

Trump Welcome Back at Snap

A government break-up of Instagram and WhatsApp could upend Meta’s dominance in social networking. But Spiegel dismissed the notion that a forced breakup could help Snap.

“Our view has always been that by the time regulators get around to dealing with monopolies, oftentimes market forces have already prevailed,” Spiegel said, citing Microsoft’s antitrust woes in the late 1990s and subsequent missteps with mobile phones.

When asked whether Snap would be interested in joining a group of investors to buy WhatsApp or Instagram—if a forced breakup were to occur—Spiegel said he hadn’t considered the idea.

“If we can invest more incremental dollars, they’re going to be more focused on us winning the future of augmented reality and AI with our new glasses than a backwards-looking strategy around Instagram or WhatsApp,” he said.

Snapchat has differed from social media platforms including Meta and Google’s YouTube, which reinstated Trump’s accounts after suspending him in the wake of the Jan. 6, 2021, U.S. Capitol riots. The messaging app in 2021 permanently disabled the president’s personal account for violating its policies.

Spiegel said Trump could rejoin the app if he wanted. “The president does have access to the White House account, and if he wants to make a new account, he’s welcome to,” he said.

Snap has long taken a more private approach to engaging with governments and has found that yields “the most productive conversations,” Spiegel said. The company has met with the White House’s Office of Science and Technology Policy “to try to understand their priorities, their investment areas,” such as advanced manufacturing in the U.S., he added.

WWD : Saks Said to Pursue Joint Venture to Expand Bergdorf Goodman

Saks Said to Pursue Joint Venture to Expand Bergdorf Goodman
Saks picked up the uber luxe Bergdorf’s as part of its $2.7 billion buyout of Neiman Marcus.

The reinvention at Saks Global might be about to touch the Bergdorf Goodman business.

Sources said the company has had “preliminary discussions about potential joint venture opportunities” for the uber luxe retailer.

Exactly what kind of deal those discussions could lead to remains uncertain, but there would certainly be any number of players that could be interested in at least thinking more about partnering up with Bergdorf’s.

Financial sources have been buzzing that Saks was shopping Bergdorf’s to Middle Eastern funds interested in trophy retail properties, looking to quickly raise roughly $1 billion to shore up its liquidity. “Phone calls have been made, it’s in play,” one source said.

But Saks said not so fast and threw cold water on the speculation.

Marc Metrick, chief executive officer of Saks, told WWD: “We’re not selling the business. It’s core to our strategy — it’s the data, it’s the brand positioning, it’s part of our story. It’s not something we would do.”

Metrick is in the process of “resetting” luxury multibrand retailing in the U.S., integrating Neiman’s into Saks, setting up a storefront on Amazon, extending payment terms on vendors and more.

Along the way there have been partners of all kinds. Amazon, Salesforce and G-III Apparel Group all contributed to the Neiman’s deal.

Saks also linked with Jamie Salter’s licensing giant Authentic Brands Group to form Authentic Luxury Group. Initially, that joint venture included Authentic’s Barneys New York, Judith Leiber Couture, Hervé Léger and Vince brands, which could get more exposure in Saks properties. The group is also expected to keep an eye out for other designer brands that could play a similar role.

Authentic Luxury Group is also said to be working with Centric Brands to put Saks Fifth Avenue-branded men’s in Costco.

Partnering is the name of the game at the moment and Bergdorf’s is jumping in.

For now, Metrick has some financial breathing room to push his reset.

Last week Saks lined up a $300 million FILO credit facility as well as a $50 million secured term loan, both of which are expected to close by June 30 and are from SLR Credit Solutions.

That sets the company up to have $700 million in liquidity by the end of the month — enough to fund $240 million in bond interest payments this year, the $275 million in past-due bills owed to vendors and other expenses.

“Saks is in it and we’re going to do something great,” Metrick said after securing the financing. “The most important thing to me is reestablishing the credibility that we have with our partners and [realizing] synergies [between Neiman’s and Saks] well ahead of plan.”

TechCrunch : DeepSeek may have used Google’s Gemini to train its latest model

DeepSeek may have used Google’s Gemini to train its latest model

Last week, Chinese lab DeepSeek released an updated version of its R1 reasoning AI model that performs well on a number of math and coding benchmarks. The company didn’t reveal the source of the data it used to train the model, but some AI researchers speculate that at least a portion came from Google’s Gemini family of AI.

Sam Paech, a Melbourne-based developer who creates “emotional intelligence” evaluations for AI, published what he claims is evidence that DeepSeek’s latest model was trained on outputs from Gemini. DeepSeek’s model, called R1-0528, prefers words and expressions similar to those that Google’s Gemini 2.5 Pro favors, said Paech in an X post.


That’s not a smoking gun. But another developer, the pseudonymous creator of a “free speech eval” for AI called SpeechMap, noted the DeepSeek model’s traces — the “thoughts” the model generates as it works toward a conclusion — “read like Gemini traces.”

DeepSeek has been accused of training on data from rival AI models before. In December, developers observed that DeepSeek’s V3 model often identified itself as ChatGPT, OpenAI’s AI-powered chatbot platform, suggesting that it may’ve been trained on ChatGPT chat logs.

Earlier this year, OpenAI told the Financial Times it found evidence linking DeepSeek to the use of distillation, a technique to train AI models by extracting data from bigger, more capable ones. According to Bloomberg, Microsoft, a close OpenAI collaborator and investor, detected that large amounts of data were being exfiltrated through OpenAI developer accounts in late 2024 — accounts OpenAI believes are affiliated with DeepSeek.
Distillation isn’t an uncommon practice, but OpenAI’s terms of service prohibit customers from using the company’s model outputs to build competing AI.
To be clear, many models misidentify themselves and converge on the same words and turns of phrases. That’s because the open web, which is where AI companies source the bulk of their training data, is becoming littered with AI slop. Content farms are using AI to create clickbait, and bots are flooding Reddit and X.
This “contamination,” if you will, has made it quite difficult to thoroughly filter AI outputs from training datasets.
Still, AI experts like Nathan Lambert, a researcher at the nonprofit AI research institute AI2, don’t think it’s out of the question that DeepSeek trained on data from Google’s Gemini.

“If I was DeepSeek, I would definitely create a ton of synthetic data from the best API model out there,” Lambert wrote in a post on X. “[DeepSeek is] short on GPUs and flush with cash. It’s literally effectively more compute for them.”


Partly in an effort to prevent distillation, AI companies have been ramping up security measures.

In April, OpenAI began requiring organizations to complete an ID verification process in order to access certain advanced models. The process requires a government-issued ID from one of the countries supported by OpenAI’s API; China isn’t on the list.

Elsewhere, Google recently began “summarizing” the traces generated by models available through its AI Studio developer platform, a step that makes it more challenging to train performant rival models on Gemini traces. Anthropic in May said it would start to summarize its own model’s traces, citing a need to protect its “competitive advantages.”

We’ve reached out to Google for comment and will update this piece if we hear back.

>>> US Gapping down

Gapping down
In reaction to earnings/guidance
:
  • ASAN -9.4%, CRWD -6.7% (also authorizes new $1 bln share repurchase program), DLTR -2.8%, BASE -2.5%
Other news:
  • MRUS -5.5% (prices offering of 5,263,158 common shares at $57.00 per share)
  • OBT -5.3% (prices offering of 1,720,430 shares of its common stock at $23.25 per share)
  • ZBIO -3.9% (provides investor updates in presentation; highlights multipl upcoming Phase 2 and 3 data readouts)
  • OM -2.5% (CFO steps down, names new CFO; reaffirms guidance)
  • FLS -2.5% (Flowserve and Chart Industries (GTLS) to combine in all-stock merger of equals)
  • QBTS -2.3% (files for $400 mln mixed securities shelf offering)
  • SCL -1.9% (announces significant increase in production capacity for Alpha Olefin Sulfonates)
  • UMC -1.9% (adjusts dividend ratio)
  • STOK -1.4% (provides certain updates related to the Company's Phase 3 EMPEROR study of zorevunersen; initiated the Phase 3 EMPEROR study with the first United States sites initiated in May 2025)

>>> US Gapping up

Gapping up
In reaction to earnings/guidance
:
  • GWRE +14.6%, THO +10.4%, YEXT +8.8%, REVG +7.6%, LITE +7.2%, HPE +6.2%, TTGT +5.9%, HQY +5.3%, GCO +4.3%, APPS +1.3%
Other news:
  • SGMT +21.8% (announces Phase 3 Results for Denifanstat for the Treatment of Moderate-to-Severe Acne from Partner Ascletis met all endpoints)
  • CRVS +7.3% (announces new interim data from the randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled Phase 1 clinical trial evaluating soquelitinib in patients with moderate to severe atopic dermatitis)
  • TLX +6.7% (receives approval of Illuccix PSMA-PET imaging agent in Portugal)
  • ANAB +4.4% (rosnilimab data updated in Phase 2b Trial)
  • CANG +3.7% (enters third amendment to share-settled crypto mining assets acquisitions)
  • TVTX +3.1% (to present new FILSPARI data)
  • WFC +2.7% (Fed removes limits on growth in total assets)
  • SNOW +2.5% (INFA expands collaboration with SNOW)
  • NG +1.9% (NovaGold Resources and Paulson Advisers complete $1 billion acquisition of Barrick Mining's (B) 50% interest in Donlin Gold)
  • ALV +1.8% (raises dividend and authorizes new stock repurchase program; reaffirms FY25 guidance at Capital Markets Day)
  • KOS +1.6% (Kosmos Energy and partners sign MOU to extend Ghana production licenses to 2040)
  • PSNL +1.4% (presents new clinical results from PREDICT DNA and SCANDARE studies; also new results from the CALLA phase 3 study)
  • CPRX +1.2% (CEO bought 70000 shares)
  • INFA +1.2% (INFA expands collaboration with SNOW)
  • VTS +1.2% (has resolved this pending litigation in North Dakota with Hess)

>>> US Research Calls I

Research Calls I
  • Upgrades
    • Agenus (AGEN) upgraded to Buy from Neutral at H.C. Wainwright, tgt $25
    • AnaptysBio (ANAB) upgraded to Buy from Neutral at H.C. Wainwright, tgt $38
    • Cactus (WHD) upgraded to Overweight from Equal Weight at Barclays, tgt $54
    • Dollar General (DG) upgraded to Outperform from Perform at Oppenheimer, tgt $130
    • Embraer (ERJ) upgraded to Buy from Hold at HSBC, tgt $57
    • NovaGold (NG) upgraded to Outperform from Sector Perform at RBC Capital, tgt $7
    • Snowflake (SNOW) upgraded to Buy from Neutral at UBS, tgt $265
    • XP Inc. (XP) upgraded to Buy from Neutral at Goldman, tgt $23
    • Yext (YEXT) upgraded to Buy from Neutral at B. Riley Securities, tgt $10
    • Yum! Brands (YUM) upgraded to Buy from Neutral at Goldman, tgt $167
  • Downgrades
    • Algonquin Power (AQN) downgraded to Sector Perform from Outperform at National Bank, tgt $6.75
    • Apple (AAPL) downgraded to Hold from Buy at Needham
    • Aptiv (APTV) downgraded to Neutral from Buy at Guggenheim
    • Constellation Energy (CEG) downgraded to Neutral from Buy at Citigroup, tgt $318
    • CrowdStrike (CRWD) downgraded to Neutral from Buy at BofA Securities, tgt $470
    • CrowdStrike (CRWD) downgraded to Hold from Buy at Canaccord Genuity, tgt $475
    • CrowdStrike (CRWD) downgraded to In Line from Outperform at Evercore ISI, tgt $440
  • Others
    • Akebia (AKBA) assumed with a Buy at H.C. Wainwright, tgt $8
    • Banco Santander (SAN) reinstated with a Buy at Citigroup
    • Centrus Energy (LEU) initiated with a Buy at BofA Securities, tgt $160
    • Chagee (CHA) initiated with a Buy at Citigroup, tgt $43.70
    • DraftKings (DKNG) initiated with an Outperform at Bernstein, tgt $46
    • Flutter Entertainment (FLUT) initiated with a Market Perform at Bernstein, tgt $275
    • Graphic Packaging (GPK) initiated with a Neutral at UBS, tgt $24
    • INmune Bio (INMB) initiated with a Buy at Lucid Capital, tgt $25
    • International Paper (IP) initiated with a Buy at UBS, tgt $60
    • Liberty Formula One (FWONA) initiated with a Market Perform at Bernstein, tgt $105
    • Lionsgate Studios (LION) initiated with a Hold at Loop Capital; tgt $8
    • Live Nation (LYV) initiated with an Outperform at Bernstein, tgt $185
    • NewAmsterdam Pharma (NAMS) initiated with an Overweight at Cantor Fitzgerald, tgt $42
    • Packaging Corp. (PKG) initiated with a Neutral at UBS, tgt $200
    • Primo Brands (PRMB) initiated with an Overweight at Barclays, tgt $40
    • Sonoco (SON) initiated with a Neutral at UBS, tgt $48
    • TAT Technologies (TATT) initiated with a Buy at Truist, tgt $35
    • TKO Group (TKO) initiated with an Outperform at Bernstein, tgt $190
    • Unicycive Therapeutics (UNCY) initiated with a Buy at Lucid Capital, tgt $12
    • Warner Music (WMG) initiated with an Outperform at Bernstein, tgt $32

>>> US Early premarket gappers

Early premarket gappers
  • Gapping up:
    • SGMT +37.5%, THO +12.9%, YEXT +11.6%, GWRE +11.1%, TLX +6.7%, ANAB +6.3%, HPE +5.9%, HQY +5.4%, LITE +5%, WFC +3.4%, CANG +3.4%, NG +3.2%, TVTX +3.1%, SNOW +2.5%, TRVI +2.4%, VTS +2.2%, ALV +2.1%, SOC +1.9%, KOS +1.6%, CLF +1.6%, MT +1.5%, TTGT +1.3%, PKX +1.2%
  • Gapping down:
    • ASAN -9.2%, CRWD -7.4%, MRUS -6%, OBT -5.3%, DLTR -3.8%, GTLS -2.8%, OM -2.5%, BASE -2.5%, RS -2.4%, QBTS -2.1%, SCL -1.9%, UMC -1.8%, FLS -0.9%

>>> Europe : Brokers Upgrades & Downgrades - 4th of June 2025 V2(+)

>>> Up
* AB Dynamics Raised to Hold at Jefferies; PT 1,620 pence
* Deutsche Post Raised to Buy at Citi; PT 48 euros
* DocMorris Raised to Add at Baader Helvea; PT 10 Swiss francs
* Elisa PT Raised to 58 euros from 55 euros at Morgan Stanley
* Endeavour Mining Raised to Outperform at RBC; PT 3,000 pence (+)
* Embraer ADRs Raised to Buy at HSBC; PT $57
* Hiscox PT Raised to 1,595 pence from 1,450 pence at UBS (+)
* Judges Scientific Raised to Buy at Jefferies; PT 9,100 pence
* Kardex Raised to Buy at Jefferies; PT 300 Swiss francs
* NN Group Raised to Overweight at JPMorgan; PT 70 euros
* Uniqa Raised to Add at AlphaValue/Baader (+)

>>> Down
* Castellum Cut to Hold at SEB Equities; PT 120 kronor
* Cofinimmo Cut to Hold at Berenberg; PT 78 euros
* Constellation Energy Cut to Neutral at Citi; PT $318
* Derichebourg Cut to Hold at Kepler Cheuvreux (+)
* Diagnostyka Cut to Hold at Trigon Dom Maklerski; PT 178 zloty
* EcoUp Cut to Reduce at Inderes; PT 2.30 euros (+)
* Gerresheimer Cut to Hold at DZ Bank; PT 50 euros
* Gerresheimer Cut to Hold at Berenberg; PT 55 euros
* Heijmans GDRs Cut to Neutral at Oddo BHF; PT 54.50 euros
* IG Group Cut to Neutral at UBS; PT 1,200 pence (+)
* Norsk Hydro Cut to Sell at Nordea; PT 43 kroner
* Orlen Cut to Neutral at Citi; PT 73 zloty
* PORR Cut to Accumulate at Erste Group; PT 34.20 euros
* Redcare Pharmacy NV Cut to Hold at Kepler Cheuvreux

>>> Initiation
* DraftKings Rated New Outperform at Bernstein; PT $46
* Flutter Rated New Market Perform at Bernstein; PT $275
* Liberty Formula One Rated New Market Perform at Bernstein
* Meta Reinstated Buy at William O'Neil
* Orior Rated New Hold at Octavian; PT 13 Swiss francs
* Palfinger Rated New Buy at Kepler Cheuvreux; PT 39 euros (+)
* Spotify Rated New Outperform at Bernstein; PT $825
* TKO Rated New Outperform at Bernstein; PT $190
* Warner Music Rated New Outperform at Bernstein; PT $32

>>> Call
* Babcock Put on Positive Watch at JPMorgan, Room to Lift Guidance
* Deutsche Post Upgraded at Citi on Underappreciated Margin Upside
* Elisa Gains After Morgan Stanley Raises PT to Street High (+)
* Kardex Raised at Jefferies on Warehouse Automation Recovery
* NN Group Now Preferred to ASR at JPMorgan on Earnings Potential
* Redcare Downgraded to Hold at Kepler: Europe Research Digest (+)

WSJ : Musk Says SpaceX Revenue Will Near $16 Billion in 2025


Key Points
  • Elon Musk forecasts SpaceX commercial revenue will surpass NASA’s budget in 2026.
  • SpaceX’s revenue is projected to reach $15.5 billion this year, with NASA contributing $1.1 billion.
  • The White House proposed cutting NASA’s 2026 budget to $18.8 billion from nearly $25 billion.

SpaceX is on track to record another significant revenue increase this year, Elon Musk said, continuing a growth streak at the world’s busiest rocket launcher.

Musk, SpaceX’s chief executive, said Tuesday on X that the Texas-based company is expected to generate about $15.5 billion in revenue in 2025.

Privately held since Musk founded it in 2002, SpaceX doesn’t publicly disclose its financial results, making information about its performance rare. In 2022, SpaceX’s annual revenue totaled $4.6 billion, The Wall Street Journal has reported. Late last year, SpaceX was valued at $350 billion.

The company has two main business lines that have stoked revenue growth in recent years. One is its launch operation, which revolves around its Falcon 9 rocket. The partially reusable vehicle has emerged as the global workhorse, frequently used for U.S. government missions and by private satellite operators.

SpaceX’s launch business has been helped by the company’s focus on reusability, as well technical problems that have delayed several competing rockets.

The company’s other major business is Starlink—a low-Earth-orbit satellite constellation that provides subscribers on the ground with high-speed internet connections.

Starlink has driven a major part of the recent revenue gains at SpaceX, according to analysts tracking the company. Quilty Space, a consulting firm, estimates Starlink revenue is set to grow to $12.3 billion this year from $7.8 billion in 2024.

Starlink has won household subscribers from competing satellite services, built up a growing government business and reeled in blue-chip corporate clients, like United Airlines and Deere.

SpaceX continues to invest heavily in vehicle development and infrastructure efforts. A good part of its cash is flowing toward Starship, the deep-space vehicle the company has been testing in flight since 2023 and hopes to one day use for missions to Mars.

Bret Johnsen, finance chief at SpaceX, said at an industry event in March that getting Starship prepared for Mars was a huge endeavor. He said SpaceX continued to spend its own funds on research and development for the roughly 400-foot-tall vehicle, which the company has called the most powerful rocket ever built.

In his post Tuesday, Musk said “commercial revenue” at SpaceX would exceed the entire budget of NASA next year. The White House, where Musk worked until recently, has proposed cutting the National Aeronautics and Space Administration budget to $18.8 billion for its next fiscal year from nearly $25 billion currently.

NASA’s funds flow to a far-reaching set of scientific and exploration endeavors, and SpaceX is a major contractor at the agency. Musk said about $1.1 billion of the company’s expected revenue this year would come from NASA.

WSJ : Elon Musk Calls Trump Megabill a ‘Disgusting Abomination’

Elon Musk Calls Trump Megabill a ‘Disgusting Abomination’
Billionaire sides with GOP critics who say measure doesn’t cut spending enough

Key Points
  • Elon Musk called President Trump’s tax and spending package a “disgusting abomination.”
  • Musk said the bill is a “massive, outrageous, pork-filled Congressional spending bill.”
  • The bill is expected to increase budget deficits by $2.7 trillion through 2034.

WASHINGTON—Former White House cost-cutting czar Elon Musk called President Trump’s “big, beautiful” tax and spending package a “disgusting abomination,” stepping up his criticism just as the Senate is trying to quickly pass the measure and get it signed into law by July 4.

Musk’s comments are his latest sharp words about the package, which includes tax cuts as well as reductions to spending on Medicaid and food assistance. Last month, he gave new fuel to GOP critics of the Republicans’ multitrillion-dollar agenda, saying that the current measure failed to reduce the federal deficit.

“Shame on those who voted for it: you know you did wrong. You know it,” said Musk, in comments on his X social-media platform. Musk, who left the administration last week, called the package a “massive, outrageous, pork-filled Congressional spending bill.” He issued a warning on the midterm elections: “In November next year, we fire all politicians who betrayed the American people.”


The bill narrowly passed the House last month by one vote. It is now in the hands of the Senate, where some fiscal hawks, including Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Mike Lee of Utah and Rick Scott of Florida, have demanded deeper cuts.

The Senate is aiming to make changes to the bill and then send it back to the House. Backers can afford to lose no more than a handful of GOP votes in either chamber, with all Democrats expected to be opposed. Still, the White House and GOP leaders said that Musk’s statements didn’t shake their confidence in passing the measure.

Trump “already knows where Elon Musk stood on this bill,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters on Tuesday when asked about Musk’s social-media post. “It doesn’t change the president’s opinion.”

The current proposal would extend expiring tax cuts for all income groups and create new tax cuts on top of that, including versions of Trump’s campaign-trail promises to eliminate taxes on tips, overtime pay and Social Security benefits. The bill would provide new money for border security, national defense and support for farmers. To cover some—but not all—of those costs, the bill would reduce spending on green energy tax credits, Medicaid and food assistance.

Top Republican defenders of the measure argue that the tax cuts will fuel increased economic growth to close the fiscal gap—counter to assessments by congressional scorekeepers. In all, the bill is expected to increase budget deficits by $2.7 trillion through 2034, compared with doing nothing, though a final official estimate wasn’t available.

Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R., S.D.) kept his focus on the bigger picture, saying that Republicans had campaigned on extending and expanding Trump’s tax cuts and that he intended to deliver, aiming to put the bill on the floor the week before July 4. Asked if he thought Musk’s pressure would tank the bill, Thune said he hoped Musk would further assess the bill and “come to a different conclusion.”

Senate Republicans still must sort through intraparty differences, including over the timing and depth of cuts to Medicaid and clean-energy subsidies, whether to go along with more generous state-and-local tax deductions, and demands from lawmakers who want special benefits for their states in exchange for backing unpopular changes elsewhere in the bill.

Musk helped derail a House GOP spending bill in December, forcing House Speaker Mike Johnson (R., La.) to slim down the proposal to get it passed and avoid a government shutdown right before Christmas. But there were signs Musk’s power has ebbed, and Johnson brushed off his objections.

Johnson said Musk is “terribly wrong.” He said the bill is a “very important first start” in terms of cutting costs, and the package will be “jet fuel for the economy.” He also questioned whether Musk’s objections were related to a provision ending federal tax incentives for electric vehicles.

Under the House bill, consumer tax credits for new electric vehicles would largely end after this year. Musk has previously said the government should end all such tax credits.

Democrats, who for months cast Musk as a villain haphazardly dismantling government agencies, reveled in the public split.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) said the billionaire’s comments prompted him to “say something I didn’t think was imaginable. I agree with Elon Musk.” He reiterated Democrats’ criticism of the package as a “big, ugly bill” that provides “tax breaks for the ultra-wealthy paid by gutting health care for millions of Americans.”

While in government, Musk drove sharp cuts in many government departments, but fell well short of producing the $1 trillion in savings he promised. Some Republicans questioned how meaningful Musk’s comments were in swaying senators.

“I don’t know how influential he was when he was in the administration, so I can’t gauge it,” said Sen. Mike Rounds (R., S.D.). “He’s a businessman who came in and tried to help. We appreciated it,” Rounds said. “But now we move on.”

Trump hosted Musk at a farewell Oval Office press conference last week, where the two men heaped praise on each other, aiming to counter the perceptions that their partnership had frayed. The White House on Tuesday sent Congress a $9.4 billion rescissions package that would codify some spending cuts made during Musk’s tenure.

Critics of the bill embraced Musk’s latest remarks.

“The Senate must make this bill better,” Lee wrote in a response to Musk’s post. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, who has objected to the debt-limit increase included in the package, said both he and Musk “have both seen the massive waste in government spending and we know another $5 trillion in debt is a huge mistake. We can and must do better.”

Trump attacked Paul on social media earlier Tuesday, saying the senator “has very little understanding of the [big, beautiful bill], especially the tremendous GROWTH that is coming.”